Shayde wrote: Not that I disagree with you...but...lets break it down to what it really is:

The 8 class stories are about 3 missions per planet, mixed in with probably 30 'normal' missions per planet. By the time you've done the game once, you've done over half the content (assuming you did the missions).

I've done almost every (if not every) Heroic and for certain, every Flashpoint. I've done the Flashpoints on story mode and hard mode. The Heroics are really nothing more than 'harder' normal missions. They may have a choice or cut-scene to them, but they amount to just harder mobs to kill. Rather than 3 'normal' mobs, it's 2 silver and a gold or 2 golds. My main problems with these is that they don't scale at all - in difficulty or group size. Everything in SWTOR is just so basic. 4 person, 8 person or 16. That's the extent of their 'creativity'.

I've also done every Operation...all 3. Sure, there are story, hard and nightmare modes...but they're of the SAME instance. SAME bosses. The only added 'difficulty' is a few tweaks like not CC effects on Mobs, shorter enrage timers and increased health. Sadly, once you have full Rakata gear (I have 2 full sets plus quite a few bonus pieces), there's no reason to do Story any more. Hell, the other night we took 2 new players with Recruit (entry level PvP gear) through both Karagas and Eternity Vault HM. At the end, they were both in 3-4 pieces of the 7 Rakata.

The stories are AMAZING and very well written! I'm enjoying myself every time I log in...but with the stupidity of lockouts (operations limited to 1 run per week for each), I find myself often wondering wtf people do that play more than me. I know they run the "daily" missions...and that's great...I just find doing the exact same things over and over and over and over again to be boring. If I were to grind a new character, I'd be in the same boat...doing sh!t I've already done many times.

I don't think SWTOR is 8 games...it's got the content of 2 at most...but sure as hell not 8. It will add more in time...but don't try to over hype it...it's most certainly lacking fresh content after one time through.

We're going to have to agree to disagree. The "engaging" content certainly hasn't been engaging enough to retain players. I do not find the voice overs engaging the second, third, <insert number here> time around outside a new class quest. You obviously put more stock into the voice overs than I do. I also believe it is quite shallow on content, especially after leveling to 50 and I think more players would agree with me than not. This has been one of the biggest complaints, alongside the absence of open world PvP.


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While the transfers have helped with low population complaints (which were the biggest issue earlier), the problems that caused low populations haven't been resolved.

It may not be the most shallow mmo released, but factoring the resources that went into it and what was delivered it sure is a contender.

The question should be about how deep and engaging the game is, especially as an mmo.

People generally seem to enjoy the single player story line aspect of the game. At least the first time through.

Beyond that I don't hear the game receiving many accolades. However the laundry list of what is lacking is rather large.

Perhaps in a side by side comparison of bullet points the game might look like it has as much to offer as other games, but this isn't about putting check marks in a column.